Comments on: Cineform for 7D

By: Paul jay

Paul jay — Sat, 03 Jul 2010 20:48:52 +0000

would be cool if you also showed the frames when converting directly to ProRes.

By: mataikan

mataikan — Fri, 07 May 2010 00:11:02 +0000

i think you can now edit directly on cineform in Final Cut.
Works really nicely with FirstLight. Ho yes I upgraded my neoscene to neo HD. you can grade the footage even while with final cut open, from first light, and it instantly updates it.
Here’s my test. note I was shooting with a sign ray gold blue filter.
http://www.vimeo.com/10920247

By: David Taylor

David Taylor — Thu, 18 Mar 2010 15:28:17 +0000

Good blog post, but I’ll add one update. The reason you stated for transcoding from CineForm to ProRes (performance) was valid at the time of the blog post. But about 6 weeks ago CineForm released its RT engine for FCP which now provides multi-stream RT performance in FCP including through transitions and effects. Following is CineForm’s Tech Blog post on the subject: http://techblog.cineform.com/?p=2747.

By: Christoph Tilley

Christoph Tilley — Fri, 12 Mar 2010 20:57:32 +0000

I am using MPEG Streamclip exporting Apple ProRes LT.

By: al

al — Fri, 12 Mar 2010 20:56:02 +0000

what do you use to go back from cineform to prores?
mpegstreamclip exporting as prores422 or hd?

By: James Vreeken

James Vreeken — Thu, 25 Feb 2010 23:58:13 +0000

I just reread my last post…. not codecs…. sorry I had a long day that day.

The newest beta of neoHD/Remaster you can enable the FCP preference and not have to render color corrections done in firstlight and still have all transitions/effects play realtime without the need to prerender!

It is such a nice feature! I can’t believe more people are not jumping on this

By: James Vreeken

James Vreeken — Mon, 22 Feb 2010 20:08:08 +0000

Have you tried the new beta of neoHD? you can use first light and have your color graded files show up in final cut with full support for transitions and codecs without the need to render! SOOOO NICE!

By: Christoph Tilley

Christoph Tilley — Sat, 06 Feb 2010 09:57:15 +0000

Same thing like Scott said. I’ll have to check if the quality is better when skipping the ProRes conversion. As for the grading in color: you might be right, but I don’t have the time to colorgrade every shot before editing. And I like my shots to be colorgradable in FCP when editing.

By: Dave C

Dave C — Sat, 06 Feb 2010 09:40:28 +0000

Hmmm…this doesn’t seem right to me. Converting codecs TWICE before editing seems really counter-intuitive and open to concatentation errors.

I am curious about whether if you go straight to ProRes but then pull the clips into Color, if you would recover exactly the same amount of detail in the highlights and shadows.

I suspect you would, but can’t prove it right now.

Dave

By: Christoph Tilley

Christoph Tilley — Fri, 05 Feb 2010 23:06:19 +0000

@Scott: Interesting point. My conversion goes from the original h264 to Cineform and then to ProRes LT. The point in going back to ProRes is that I get the unlimited RT effects in FCP. When using Cineform I need to render each clip after applying filters.

I’ll test and post some cineform-graded vs. cineform-to-prores-graded images when I have time.